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Risk jobs in banking now: "Depressed people doing non-jobs to placate the regulator"

I work in risk management for a major bank. It's a job that I'm good at and that I have enjoyed. I get a buzz from working with traders and from being close to the trading floor. 

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The risk function is changing, though. As banks seek to automate as much as they can and to cut costs, they're offshoring or near-shoring as much as they can and using inexperienced button pushers instead of skilled risk professionals. 

I see it first hand. The bank I work for was reprimanded by the regulator in the recent past and is now paranoid. As a result, it has gone completely over the top with its risk and controls team which now employs hundreds of people who make almost no difference.

Most of them have almost nothing of value to do. They are employed in non-jobs flapping around the edges in the semblance of doing something worthwhile.

For example, the bank has a system that generates a lot of alerts which are unnecessary and designed in a panic. These alerts do nothing to really drill down into traders' behaviours and are just there to make it seem like risk is on top of things. When an alert - which is almost always meaningless - is triggered, people must investigate it. They never find anything, but this is because the alert was meaningless in the first place. It's just red tape.

It is a massive exercise in appearing to do something. Banks are petrified of regulatory action and are therefore engaged in ass covering. The hundreds of people who do these spend 10-15 minutes investigating each alert, in the full knowledge that it's pointless. None of them know anything about markets. None of them really understand what they're looking at, and none of them are able to identify what's really important anyway.

Most of them are depressed. They understand that their jobs are pointless and repetitive, but they keep doing them because they won't get paid as much elsewhere. For banks though, the people are a cheap solution until AI takes over. It's pretty bleak. 

Dillon Wells is a pseudonym 

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  • Wi
    Will Tait
    13 July 2025
    At UB we get notified about a "violation" after it occurs. So the "system" can identify all sorts of violations after, but can't identify them before the button is hit to enter a trade. They can't identify a symbol as it's being placed. So 15 people the next day will notify 15 supervisory people that a violation has occurred. The people actually doing a trade and making the revenue for the company are completely in the dark about the "violation" they executed. Then the punishment starts. The employee who entered the trade is reprimanded, then is charged double if busting the trade incurred a loss, and if it made a profit, he is charged that profit against his paycheck. The surveillance systems are a joke. All are just reactionary to what they guess maybe something against regulator policy. Regulator policy is a joke, they slug through minutiae while the big violators who are stealing peoples life savings are undetected for years. Ponzi schemes are rampart. The fiduciary title is a joke. A fiduciary can't buy any internal fixed income but must pay a hidden mark up from an external source. How is that "in the clients best interest"? All these rinky dink RIA's that have no capital say "you can trust us," because we are a fiduciary. But, if some internal thief wires all your money to Panama, your out of luck. The firm goes bankrupt and you've lost all your money. Of course on TV and radio they can advertise " we make more money when you make more money". Of course! It's fee based, you idiot. If your account grows, or you just deposit more money, your fees go up! There is zero supervision of these Independent Registered Investment Advisors. Just because they are fiduciaries doesn't mean they can't lose your money in down markets. How about the TV pitch, "when the market goes doen you don't lose money" and when the market goes up you make a reasonable return on your investment ". There is no mention that the "product " is an annuity with all the penalties involved if you want to "get out". That kind of advertising is illegal, but it happens every day and we know who the violators are. The regulators do nothing. Why is that? But, if a financial advisor takes established clients out for dinner snd the bill runs higher than the $100 per person regulatory limit, he's in big trouble!!! I advise all Financial Advisors to tell clients at a dinner restaurant"please restrict yourself to only one beverage, and let's skip dessert!"
  • TS
    TS100
    9 July 2025
    lol, I think the bank is Citi. And yes, it’s gone crazy, totally over the top and off-market. The said reality is that instead of these tech roll outs and control helping with things, on the contrary it requires a tremendous amount of human workforce. For example you create three layers of tech driven independent alerts, it also mean to you now needs three Risk teams each with a risk officer or someone to monitor and sign off on this alert!!! It’s crazy. But in the end, it created more jobs!!! So can’t complain. People need work. The latest tech systems for risk management at Citi is far from automated and far far away from AI. On the contrary it’s slowed down things and need several people to manage a simple credit approval . It’s totally off market. I interviewed with 3 banks and I was amazed how lean, juniorised and quick their risk management was - just with a few real , close to relationship risk managers. Not the maze of Managing Directors with thousands of staff Citi has!!!!

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